Originally Posted by okie john
In Finn Aagaard's article on the 30-06 in his NRA book "Hunting Rifles & Cartridges," he reports using 53 grains of IMR-4831 as a max load under the 250-grain Barnes RNSP, getting 2,300 fps in a 22" barrel. I'd start around 49 grains and work up.

The point was to test the 250 Barnes against more modern designs, and the Barnes did not fare well.

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The performance of the 200- and 250-grain RNSP bullets was rather disappointing. They had a tendency to come apart or lose their lead cores, and the 200-gr. boat tail bettered them, while the 180-grain Hornady came within a hair of matching them. If these bullets have any purpose, it is as stoppers to be slammed into large, heavy-boned game at close range. I have to infer that they are not up the the work.

Later in the article, he advocates for the 180-grain Nosler Partition as an all-around choice, and says
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...when the utmost in bone-smashing penetration is imperative, the 200-gr. Nosler Partition bullet is the only way to go.

Many years ago I tried the 250 Barnes in a 24" 1903 Springfield with H4831 (?). I think I got something like 2,150 fps.

I still have a few on my loading bench.


Okie John


I agree with this:

1. The 250gr Barnes originals are cool to have on the reloading bench.
2. If you really want something that penetrates and kills well, use a 200gr Nosler partitions.


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