I shot a doe a few years ago at about 20 yards with the .444 Marlin, didn't notice the sapling just in front of her chest, maybe an 1" or so in diameter. Bullet hit the sapling before the deer and must have expanded and carried some of the tree with it as it punched a 2" hole clean through her heart/lung area completely obliterating everything in her chest, you could literally see right through her. She still ran 30 yards. There was so much blood when my son viewed the scene he asked me how many did I shoot.