I used them for 2 two years in a .308Win with great results on whitetail. Then I loaded up some 130gr's for a .270Win and had 2 failures in a row. The second one was ugly and I'm sure a very painful end for the deer. I won't use them after that. I had loaded 100 of these before the season started. On a brighter note the remander were used on varmints with explosive results!

Terry