I suppose I've seen quite a few guns that won't shoot 1 MOA out of the box. Usually something like a M740 (or whatever the number is for a Remington semi-auto).

I also must be an oddity, because I save groups like this.

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Why shouldn't I? It was shot with a 03-A3, that's older than me, that had the original stock and trigger and a $29.95 scope on it. It was also shot with a Blue Dot load and a "junk" bullet used 50+ years ago. I like to think it's educational, for me, if for no one else. smile

I bought a couple of boxes of Winchester .30-06 factory loads a few years ago, but they weren't premium loads. If they are an example of what's offered, they haven't begun to equal what we loaded 40+ years ago.

That H4350 must really be some hot stuff in a 7mm Mag. I use 50% more IMR 4350 (even the newer short tube Canadian stuff) with a 139 gr Hornady and only get 3200 fps. Maybe I need to see if the 1964 M700 will still shoot MOA with that load. wink