yeah, but those chubby little cartridges use up a lot of magazine space. still, I think the 300 wsm is hard to beat. a littler better than the 06 and close enough to the 300 wm. my various 300 win mags were all kickers and I sold them. the 300 wsm is a joy to shoot. may be all in my head but that's my take. still, I can barely close the bolt with three in the mag. I just carry spares in my pocket now.