<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />Note my earlier comment:

"I have two 94's in .444 Marlin, and the intensity on the butt end gets high enough that I'm not overly interested in pushing the envelope."

You are ever so correct...shooting the new 94 in 450 with 400-500 gr bullets would be...interesting... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />.

But the little rifles do meet a definite need that nothing else does, and at a reasonable price -- which is why Marlin and Winchester keep selling so many of them.

"The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets."

"If you're asking me something technical, you may be looking for My Other Brother Darrell."

"It ain't foot-pounds that kills stuff -- it's broken body parts."