Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by nsaqam
Because of the physical limitations of chemical propellant.

The bullets fired by the .30-06 are infinitely better than they were 100 years ago.


Agree! The only way to drastically improve the cartridge�s performance (with current powders) is to increase pressure. Many older guns would not happily digest dramatically higher-pressure loads; they suffer heart-burn and so would the shooter. In fact, current guns would not happily digest them either.


I would like to see that statement qualified with model numbers, math, and source data.

Like that's going to happen cool

The 30-06 is registered with SAAMI at 60,000 psi max average and proof between 78,000 and 84,000 psi.

The 30-06 case head, the 1889 7.65x53mm Mauser case head when built with a large primer pocket is good for 65,000 psi in production, and reloaded at least once without primers to falling out.

I am not aware of any 30-06 rifles that are safe at 60,000 psi, but not at 65,000 psi.

There is much safety margin in the rifles, and little in the brass.
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The brass is the weak link.

Focus on the brass.

30-06 rifles being old is a red herring.

After a lifetime of living in fear and ignorance spawned by mediocre load books, these are concepts difficult for some old men to internalize.... they don't get it.