Well, I see an information thread, turned into a "my dads tougher than your dad" thread. Fact of the matter is, I've owned 3 Knights MK-85 (never should have sold for a new and improved 209 ignition) Hated the disk, Disk Extreme was ok, a Remington 700ML, 2 Encores. I liked the Knights, liked the Remington (hated to clean it) The Encores were Junk, and although I've seen many Encores shoot well, will never buy another. CVA Apex, looks good, feels good, appears to be very well made, and CVA guarantees accuracy. Verdict is not out yet, as I have not shot it.... So I guess this thread is DEAD. Still need info on loads. Thanks to those who gave some useful input.

Last edited by Nilwod; 02/18/11.

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