I have one of the Winchester Carbines in 30-06 with 20" barrel. A bit louder, but not un-manageable. With factory loads it is about 40 fps slower than my 22" guns. With my reloads it is a good bit slower, but still getting a bit over 2800fps with 165's. Darn accurate as well


Most people don't really want the truth.

They just want constant reassurance that what they believe is the truth.