Elkmen,45/70 case=2.1",45/90 case=2.4". If you want to use cast,look at Lyman loading manual. Loads given for 500 grain cast that run from mellow to manaical. Using a 20:1 bullet and AA5744 you only want to go to around 1400 and there ain't nuttin' it's gonna bounce off of.

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