Guys, I want to thank you again for the tips. The 7-08 is now making bug holes with 140 TSX's .2" in group size. The very first loading, groups shrank to .6-.4 and then by moving the bullet .040 groups shrank to .2", so small that my buddy doing the reloading had to take several looks at the groups to be sure that 3 shots had hit. I am tickled to death with the gun now and cannot wait to get it in my hand, buddy lives 250 miles away. BTW this is a lightweight rifle (7.25lbs with sling & loaded). Buddy said we would work on some C&C bullets later and see what happens.