Guy's......I appreciate some of the answers given, not sure why there always has to be a couple of out spoken smart ----every time I ask a reasonable question. Enough about that.......I just hope the creedmoor stays around! In my humble opinion it appears to be a very well thought out design that offers a nice balance of power vs recoil etc. It seems to be getting a bunch of press.....hopefully more co. Will chamber for it.