Years past I have seen some H205 loads that broke 3000 with a 165...one rifle was a Savage 110.

In any event that powder always got us easily into the high 2900's from 22-23" barrels.

But I have shot those loads,and others that hovered in the high 2800's-low 2900's to 400-600 yards.Near as I could tell there was not a lot of difference;and I sort of concluded if you want to beat what a 30/06 gives, you better beat it by a lot to see any differences.....which to me, means a 300 magnum of some sort. smile




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.