Sorry, all good answers but not what Armand told me.
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...........a pastor from Berachah Church in Houston, Texas,
Col. R.B. Thieme, Jr. He was an unique pastor. He and Jeff Cooper
were buds----Cooper ran classes in Houston for folks from his church
and he had groups from the church go to Gunsite.
Good guesses all.
Last edited by gmoats; 03/05/12.