THank you very much, Nebraska. Hea really seems like a fine dog. The wing-on-a-rod trick works to get them start pointing instead of pouncing. What was awesome was that the clipped-wing pigeon could only hop/fly a few feet at a time, which looked just like the wing when I flip it away from him. I will be back to NE in the fall, but I'm going to be way the heck out west (Hitchcock Co.) Let me know where you will be this coming season.