I like an ounce of #7 shot at around 1,300 fps out of a 12-bore. A 2 1/2" shell is all that is required for this. Mine are loaded by Lyalvale.

I run IC/LM most of the time but will drop down to SK1/IC for quail and grouse.

Last edited by seattlesetters; 10/22/12.

What could be a sadder way to end a life than to die having never hunted with great dogs, good friends and your family?