Thanks all. I was just reading out in my shop bout case cap an powder charge. I did see H335 an plan on using it. one powder I am going to get is BL-c2(I think Dont have it with me).That seemed to give a good case cap an weight ratio.all of what I have read here will probably get tried. It is in man to tinker!!! To stillbeeman yes I have cleaned the barrel well. Brush an hoppes 9 as well as JB Bore Brite. I really want to thank you for asking it is amazing how that can get overlooked. I always clean a barrel well before an after a shooting( before, a bore snake) I learned the hard way once Dont ask I still weep a little about it!!!! The game is going to start tomorrow. I will try to keep a log on my work if anybody wants to know. Just got to try an post pic as well. Thanks again!