I've got the short barreled guide gun with a Leupy 1-4X20mm...it's a hammer on both ends. I have killed a shiras moose and a white-tail doe with it. I haven't loaded for it, so I can't comment on brass availability. I shoot the 325 grain leveroution loads. It's actually pretty accurate if you can handle the recoil.

I like it, but want to play with it more before I try shots beyond 150-200 yards.

Last edited by Dog_Hunter; 12/10/12.