It sounds like you've gotten some great advise already. I know where you're comin from. I got an English 2 yrs ago and could not believe the wild hair he'd get on occasion. Just flat out gone! See ya, goodbye. Everyone who knew the setters told me patience and time. Believe me, I blew my stack a few times.They were right, he's come around. BTW I tried the e collar and another post hit it right, when he was gonna go, he was gone. It didnt matter how many or how strong the "zap" was. Patience and time. Good luck.