Originally Posted by eh76
Originally Posted by gitem_12
Talking with a fellow tonight who was obvioulsy a metrosexual liberal. He gave me the standard talking point that the founding fathers could not have ever dreamed of guns like the ar15. So the 2A obviously doesn't apply to that kind of gun. I let him ramble on and then I.countered him with well then the founding fathers could not have envisioned communication devices like computers or the internet and therefore the first amendment doesn't apply to them and we should outlaw the internet and personal computers. For safety. He looked at me and said a computer and the internet have never killed anyone. I said neither have my ar15s. He said but some people use them to kill with and therefore no body but police and military should have them, it just makes sense.


I smiled and said to him well then likewise it would make sense to only allow government agencies to have computers and the internet.. he said but I have the right to free speech and free press. I looked at him and said yep, but if we only let govt have those things then pedofiles can't UAE the.internet to prey on children. His reply was but that's such a small number of peole that do that. I said yep, probably just about as small as the number of ars used in.shootings. he looked all quizzical and finally said I've never thought of it that way. And that suddenly he didntbtake gouging people of their rightsade as much sense as he once did.


I am surprised you could keep him from going hysterical long enough to get your point across logically .
Exactly. Good on you gitem! I've given up and don't even bother anymore.
By the way, the founders DID envision and intend for civilians to have "military weapons". The only firearms that existed WERE "military". Incidentally, did the founders restrict civilians in the 2nd amendment from owning cannons?.....


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