Originally Posted by kaboku68
There may be a new SG series of packs coming. Contact Kurt by email.

Sincerely,
Thomas


kaboku,
What a tease! cool Speak up man if you know something! smile

Originally Posted by yurotrash
I have used both KUIU 1850 with the carbon frame and a SG with its unique carbon frame. All I have now is the SG. Sold of the KUIU recently. The KUIU is wonderfully thought out but it was a minimalist design that I was after. SG has less pockets and lighter in weight. The belt and shoulder padding is thinner and softer than the KUIU. I couldn't get myself to get use to KUIU's belt. I don't like the open frame and the one hole on each frame stay to loop the belt through. I notices the belts have fray after a couple of use because of the pressure/stress looping through but it is just MHO. I like the cloth and the way they designed expandable loading features. I have hauled out meat with both. I used a 35L sea to summit ultra thin bag to put the meat in. They both were comfortable but the shoulder straps on the SG just secure and felt better for me. If I wasn't such a off the road hunter who hikes 5+ miles each way than I can live with the KUIU but the reason I paid 5 bills was to get the lightest pack possible.


yurotrash,
Could you talk more about the unique carbon frame...what makes it unique? Also could you share with me your thoughts on which one was the quietest? I to hike 5+ miles off road into no vehicle areas and start hunting there. For me the less than a pound difference between the two doesn't matter. But the larger bag (3300cui) on the SG just means I would pack more and then that would matter. I just don't want a bunch of grab or zip lock bags adding useless weight either.

Originally Posted by JJHACK
I had to look close at the first paragraph of the op. I thought I could have written this!
I use a kifaru express with the grab it shelf option. Same reasons you state with the mess hauling meat in a bag.
Since I'm primarily archery hunting the express and spike camp are very good because of the narrow top and wide bottom. Drawing a bow or moving your shoulders to hold a rifle is no problem.
With two side pockets for tripod and scope it's really sweet. Multiple options for inside pockets let you keep smaller items organised.
I'm sure there are plenty of others designed as good, but few are made as well. I'm not a brand specific guy, I just know that this good stuff. Good luck with the choices. Several mentioned are great options.
Day packs for me are in the 2000ci range I want my warm clothes food and gear inside where they can't get wet. That's just me.


JJHACK,
As you know I am a tradition bow hunter here in Washington but hunt both archery and rifle season in Montana. Putting heavy cotton meat bags into a bag that doesn't breath real well, I also fear, spoilage during the warmer September bow seasons. Trying to strap meat bags to the outside of a regular pack is always a pain and meant dropped game bags usually. Actually had my wife sew up something similar to the grab-it and that worked okay but still had challenges. Besides having the meat weight to my back during long hauls out should be a lot more comfortable and less stress to my back.