I hear ya on the DTACs. Silly to build a gun around them, especially with the 105 offerings currently available. The additional velocity of the 105s make up for the scant BC advantage of the 115s....and I'll take the better terminal performance of the Scenar, VLD, or Hybrid over a Matchking anyday. Looks like you have had good luck with the Horny HPBTS too...and there's always the Amax. The 115 Bergers are a waste as well, considering the 105 Hybrid has essentially equal numbers, but can be run faster and with less seating depth sensitivity.