Originally Posted by derby_dude
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by derby_dude
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Definitely not ready for prime time.

Too bad Sig doesn't beef up the P230 design a bit and make it 9mm. That would be everything the new R51 was intended to be.

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That is a nice gun as I've had a chance to handle one although not shoot one.

I'm not mechanical engineer nor do I play one on TV but from what I understand that type of design does not lend itself to high power or high performance rounds.
Due to its being a simple blow back action. They would need to address that.


That appears to be the major problem with R51 it's a simple blow back trying to handle a high powered round. One of those earlier videos explained that.


It's not a simple blow-back. It's the Pederson action. There is a mechanical delay in the unlock, but it's done differently than the Browning design. The only delay with a blow-back is from the case expanding against the chamber. Big difference.

For the Sig 230 to run well with 9mm, it would have to look more like a Hi-Point.


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