RL 17 with the 140 btip or partition runs around 2850 fps in my 22" Abolt . I stopped at 47 grains , which is 1 grain less than H4350 loads . Can switch back and forth with which ever powder I can find without changing my scope settings . Varget ran around 2800 fps with 42 grains , and shot fine but didnt shoot into same group . The way things are now it is nice to have options .