On this trip, none of us used a thing except pads. I had an Lawson pad that was larger, and the others had CCF pads under air pads. We had frost on our bags once or twice, but it only took a few minutes in the sun for it to dissipate. We had snow and hail one day, but not at night.

We did not have any problems with dew or condensation. Several nights we were camped by creeks with beavers dams etc not very far away. If the weather was fair, we slept with the tents more open, but far above timberline they were closed due to wind which got rid of any condensation in itself. About half the nights, we were camped just below timberline, and about half above timberline.

As for packs, all of them were from waterproof material so it was not an issue / worry for the packs. My pack frame was usually a pillow sort of head rest. I have gotten used to that when I use the pack frame for naps on long day outings.

Sometimes I use a ground sheet, but really I prefer an oversized lightweight pad if I can get away with it. The pad does dual duty. Sometimes, I use a lightweight bivy, but not on this trip.

Certain areas were very very wet, but it was never an issue when we decided to camp. There was always a dry ish outcropping somewhere.

It wasn't really a high tech trip. It was high, fast, sort of long, a bit spartan and a lot of fun.


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