Another vote for the propper ilbe pack. I use mine for training or camping under 50 pounds. I use my Barney's for 50 plus and hunting. I love the ilbe cause there are so many tie downs I can put a wet tent here, a coat there, a packraft on top my gun on the side, etc. and I use mine without the top and could cut a lot of the straps shorter or off to save weight. Enjoy!