True, i'm in Alaska and relatively young to be into guns as much as I am. Most of the guys around here are 15 to 20 years my senior, but I still see people selling winchesters who have no idea weather they have a gem, or a piece of junk and it doesn't matter in their opinion because all pre 64 are worth at least 1000 according to them. The guy I was talking about who owns a whelen, has a mid fifths serial number with a early 60's stock pattern, it was right before the change and they started shrinking the checkering pattern, and I believe using either impressed checking or machine cut checking, but I don't remember its been a while since I have cracked Mr Rule's book. Someone asked a question a few posts back and about if it was the 35 Remington or 358 winchester was recalled. I think it was 35 Remington because it has that weird rebated rim and short case which caused extracting problems if memory serves.
