Well, I went to the gun shop today and my son and I shot a winchester 375 and a Winchester 411 Kbr?.
Neither had a substantial pad on the stock.
the 411 is a necked down 458 that is supposed to be more or less about like the 416ruger in kick.
Results? I didn't notice either being bad at all.
the 411 had a brake on it, but we removed it before shooting.
the 375 was a little quicker/sharper, the 411 pushed slower but harder but not really much different.
Seemed no different than 12 gauge magnum turkey loads.
I could see that the brake would come in handy while at the range, but totally not needed in hunting situations. I think the twist brake of the Savage will do just fine for that. I imagine that with the brake and the really good pad, the kick of the 416 might be no worse than maybe a 270.
Overall, I still like the Savage better.
