+1 on the ULs. Lot of guys like a 20" bbl. To me 16.5" relegates a rifle to truck gun status or some other very specific use. I believe Ruger missed the boat on that one. To the op's topic, one of the best triggers in my safe is on a MkII Talo UL in .308 that I bought here on the 'fire. Both previous owners say they never touched it and I certainly believe them, but at about 2.75 pounds, it's near perfect, however it got there.
John
