Heard the old timers say many, many times that the 303 with the 190s penetrated and killed better than the 30-30 with 170's.

Those men are all gone now.

True or not, just repeating what the men that used the guns said.


"You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass"
~Admiral Yamamoto~

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. ~Thomas Jefferson~