Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by devnull
Agree on the Win primer pockets loosening up sooner. I find they only last 3-5 firings where LC brass lasts much longer.


you boys ever considering toning down you load a hair?

I have Win Brass that has been fired 40+ reloads...they are neck sized and then the shoulder bumped back when needed, annealed every 4th reload...and my loads are in the 45,000 CUP range...

Seafire,
I just saw this and thought I'd respond. I'm a Win brass fan and it's usually my go to domestic brass of choice. This is especially true in .308 Win. However, in .223, I find that the pockets go pretty quick. In saying this, my loads are:

.223: 25 gr of Benchmark behind a 55gr VMAX giving me 3,167 fps
.223AI: 26.2 gr RL-15 behind a 75gr VMAX giving me 2940 fps

With that said, I don't feel like my loads are really that hot. I've come to really like LC brass and feel that the primer pockets stay tighter longer.

they are used for high volume varmint shooting...bot action..