It’s a real shame to see the 30 AR fade away. I was real excited about it when it first came out. I think it had the most potential of being a legitimate deer rifle of any of the other ar15 cartridges. Yes, before you start, I know that there several cartridges that can kill a deer. We have killed a few with .223 and .300 BK, but we limit our shots to around 150 yards. I believe that the 30 AR could have stretched that out a couple more hundred yards.