Tom,

I have shoot a couple 500 of them or so...

granted in one in 12 twists... my usual load for them is the same I use on the 53 V Max... which is 25 grains of H 322...

They are real accurate, but I prefer the 53 V Max.. which is both even more accurate and is also flatter shooting at longer distances due to a higher BC...

and it won't stabilize in a one in 14 twist either...( the 53 V Max)...