Gentleman, thanks so much for the advice, maybe I should go back to looking for that common old bird a 22 h.p. in a checkered straight stock F.

Rod thanks for the link, from what I read over here the 141 was surposed to be an improvement on the model 14, but I accept your greater knowledge and experience in handling them.

I feel that 32 rem cal might just be a fun cartridge and good game getter. If you trip over a nice 14 in that cal shoot me a pm if you are not interested yourself.

Johno