One of my hardest kickers is a Savage 10ml smokeless. I am running a Barnes 250 gr. with a considerable load of IMR 4198 that I got off Dougs Message Board. I have not chrono it but it supposed to be running @2200 fps. Recoil is significant to say the least. My VX2 3x9 has not moved a dab over the last 15 seasons. It is consistently spot on everytime I go to the range to test before the season starts.