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Good morning all. I have a 7 day goat hunt on the books outside of Smithers, August 29th start date. It is a backpack hunt, with the outfitter setting up the spike camp before arrival, providing food, cooking gear and tents. Thanks to everyone for earlier help with pack and E reader questions, as you can see they are on the list. Since everyone likes to look at gear lists feel free to offer any suggestions to mine, as this is my first hunt of this style. The pack seems to fit me well, and the rifle is a proven favorite, so those will stay as is. The pack fabric is waterproof, but most gear will be in ZipLocs or ultralight dry sacks as well. I am thinking about a lighter rain coat , as the stormfront has worked well but at 24 oz is a bit heavy, same as the pants. The Barney's jacket is the warmest coat I have ever worn and is light enough, and may be just the thing for wearing if the temp drops and the wind picks up. If not active I get cold pretty quick. So, here is the list:
PARADOX PACK, EVOLUTION 4800 WITH DUAL TALON
TOILET PAPER BABY WIPES ADVIL, BENEDRYL, ZQUILL, PEPTO, THROAT DROPS, ETC. TWEEZERS NAIL CLIPPER NEEDLE SMALL SCISSOR TOE TAPE BAND AID NEOSPORIN GAUZE PAD COMPRESSION BANDAGE SMALL BAR OF SOAP OR LIQUID SOAP TOOTH BRUSH TOOTH PASTE FLOSS PICKS HAND TOWEL CHAP STICK HAND LOTION HAND SANITIZER
RIFLE - ULA 708 WITH LOOPY 1.75-6 AMMO , 12 ROUNDS EAR PLUGS ALLEN WRENCH FOR SCOPE
GATORADE BOTTLES DUCT TAPE AROUND BOTTLES ZIP TIES KNIFE HEAD LAMP SPARE BATTERIES CAMERA MEMORY CARD CAMERA BATTERY JOBY TRIPOD FOR CAMERA LENS WIPES KINDLE ZIPLOC BAGS SAFETY PINS PARA CORD SPARE BUCKLE AND CLIPS FOR PACK LATEX GLOVES BLACK DIAMOND HIKING STICKS SMALL FOAM PAD FOR SITTING ZEISS 8X30 VICTORY BINO
SLEEPING BAG (Mtn Hardware Laminia 20) IN COMPRESSION SACK AND DRY BAG THERMA REST NEO AIR PAD TYVEK GROUND CLOTH
SMART WOOL LIGHT TOP SMART WOOL LIGHT BOTTOMS SOCKS, 2 SPARE PATAGONIA R1 TOP PATAGONIA ADZE VEST HIKING PANTS, 1 PAIR FLEECE GLOVES, 2 PR SITKA STORMFRONT RAIN JACKET SITKA STORMFRONT PANTS FLEECE CAP NECK GAITER BALL CAP BARNEYS SUPER CUP PUFF JACKET LIGHT CAPILENE TOP FOR SLEEPING LIGHT CAPILENE BOTTOM FOR SLEEPING
CAMELBAK ELIXIR TABS VITAMIN C TABS
Thanks as usual for the help, I really appreciate it,
Courtney
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A spotting scope is a good addition. You will be able to find goats with your binos but one of the big things is making sure that you are taking a buster billy rather than a wannabe. You can't be sure that your assistant guide has a high end spotter. You don't need a Zeiss or a Swaro 65 but a good vortex Razor 50mm would be fine. Get a ultralight manfrotto tripod.
That sleeping bag may be a bit heavy, but you can get by with a silnylon dry bag with paracord. The synthetic bag won't require an event compression sack.
Make sure your packer or assistant guide who has mountain legs is carrying your first aide kit.
Also make sure that you have salt for the cape in a gatoraid bottle. You might be able to get TTC which if you flesh the goat right will be a big weight saver. Again you are paying your assistant to pack so they can carry that.
Buck is making a super good SV30 caping knife combo this year. You might also want to take a havalon paranta with replaceable blades. Outdoor Edge folding saw for cutting off the skullplate.
Make sure that you have a good functioning stove. Simple is better. The guide is supposed to provide it but its best to make sure that for the little money of buying MH or food of your choice that you will not have digestive difficulties. Many times you can arrange with your guide a menu so that you are sure that you have enough food in case you are weathered in a couple of extra days.
Water purification in the mountains still is necessary. Stupid beavers and parka squirrels poop all over up above tree line. You can go with tablets but a Sawyer mini squeeze filter is g2g.
Your dentist can prescribe you antibiotics and painkillers that are useful if you seriously get hurt.
Ask your guide if you should bring crampons and an iceaxe. Trekking poles can work like an ice axe but the lichens up above treeline sometimes are slicker than snot when it rains. Instep crampons are pretty light in weight. They don't cost much either.
Sincerely, Thomas
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I would also carry a short and a long coyote-coloured Z-Rest, in case of failure of your Neoair.
I would most definitely carry alloy crampons and maybe a super light ice axe, but, the crampons plus two BD hiking poles should get you through anything you might encounter.
Spotter.....find out for sure if your guide will have one but do carry a highend bino, I have Zeiss and Leica, Swaros are great as well.
Northern BC, wish it were still like it was when I first lived alone in the mountains there more than 40 years ago.
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Hello Courtney, I accompanied a friend two years ago on a mixed bag hunt in Northern BC. Your gear list looks good, and the only suggestion I would make is for consideration in taking a camp chair. These proved to be well worth their weight on our hunt: http://www.backcountry.com/therm-a-rest-trekker-lounge-chair I would also check with your outfitter to ensure the guide will be given (or has) a good spotting scope. The outfit we went with provided the guide with a spotter, but it definitely had seen better days. The two times I was in Northern BC the outfitter gave no consideration for water purification, and so Kaboku's recommendation is spot on. You are in for a trip of a lifetime and I am excited to hear how it went. If you are interested, here is a short film of my friend's 2013 goat hunt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHxZksCxtQoTake Care, Levi
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TWEEZERS NAIL CLIPPER
SMALL SCISSOR
HAND LOTION
ZIP TIES
CAMERA MEMORY CARD CAMERA BATTERY JOBY TRIPOD FOR CAMERA
SAFETY PINS
I wouldn't bother bringing this stuff on a 7-day hunt. I know you think you will need it now, but you'll probably end up getting home and realizing you didn't even take it out of your pack. Bring a mini Swiss army knife and a cell phone for pictures, if you must.
FLEECE GLOVES, 2 PR
LIGHT CAPILENE TOP FOR SLEEPING LIGHT CAPILENE BOTTOM FOR SLEEPING
One pair of fleece gloves will do, and if possible an outer shell layer of gloves in case you spend hours glassing in the rainy wind. I wouldn't bother bringing sleep-specific clothing. Sleep in your day-use clothes and kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Less weight, and the stuff you're already carrying can do double duty. When backpacking out of spike camp, minimizing unnecessary weight and bringing gear that is extremely efficient is the name of the game. The less you're carrying, the further and harder you can push yourself each day. JMO, of course.
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Thanks Thomas, I am making a shopping trip today and will take a ;look at the Sawyer. Beaver Fever wold be a bad addition to the trip. I am going to discuss food details with the outfitter as well.
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Thanks Levi, I appreciate your reply. I clicked on your link and once the video began I realized that I had already seen it during previous internet time as well. It looks like you two had a great hunt and got a nice billy as well. I hope to do as well next month.
Courtney
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Thanks for the reply Jordan, I appreciate it and have enjoyed reading your other posts as well. I thought about the phone, but my IPhone has such unpredictable battery life I am sure it would crap out the first day of the trip and my compact camera is hardly any heavier. The lightweight capilene for sleeping thought was keeping the bag from getting so grubby but I guess that really doesn't matter. Another thought was to have it for backup up in case the merino needed replacing for a day or two. In your experience will merino base layers hold up , dry fast enough, etc for the entire trip?
Thanks again, Courtney
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Yes I would take a back up on the sleeping pad, even a light EVA pad at the minimum. There are a couple rain shells in the 9 - 10 ounce range that work well. I have a Mountain Hardware one that is decent and light.
The extra closed cell pad and a paradox can work together as a camp chair. Ask Brian Goode he has posted photos of the arrangement.
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IME, yes. One set of base merino will do for a week-long trip.
I also agree with Kevin on the backup sleeping closed-cell pad (doubled up it gives extra padding and protection for your Neoair, in which case you could leave the Tyvek sheet at home).
I use a MH Plasmic rain shell, which works well enough. It would be a good idea to run your list by your outfitter. The location and circumstance you'll be hunting under may require specific items.
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I agree on leaving that list home, except the nail clipper and skin lotion based on lots of time in BC mountains.
You might be surprised how much you use a nail clipper over a week in the bush and cracked skin on your hands is a real bummer.
The weight of these is miniscule as is a major analgesic for serious sprains and possible ankle fracture.
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