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I dunno Obie, sure likes like miniflave killed the hell outta those dear in the pics above.
Travis,
What 223 loads, twist, barrel length, are you/your boy using? 1-8". 20" barrel. I believe all those were with the 50gr. TTSX and H335. Travis
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I know with proper shot placement you can kill any animal with just about any caliber ever made but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to try it. More pics? Sheesh. I have a lot of fans. Travis
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Travis prefers Tumbleweed IPA, which is real beer.
You gotta try some Elevator from the brewery in Belt. Very, very good. I see Tumbleweed more and more lately. They must be doing well. Travis
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If I see any Elevator will give it a try.
Tumbleweed is doing so well around here that the local grocery store is often out, and i have to go to the local Town Pump and pay another 50 cents a sixpack.
We bought some Chainbreaker White IPA in Bozone while selling books at the gun show a couple weeks ago. It's made in Bend, Oregon along with 17 zillion other microbrews and Nosler bullets. We liked it a lot and when I flew to Oregon right after the gun show to visit Leupold's factory they had Chainbreaker and some other Bend beers at a little dinner for several gun writers. After the Leupold tour we went to Bend and never saw any Chainbreaker, but then looking for a specific beer in Bend is like looking for a specific model of fast-twist .223 among Montana hunters: There are so many it's hard to pick just one.
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JB: Is the white IPA similar to Belgian White or does it have that hoppy aftertaste?
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excellent.
Expecting kid rifle info, and were talking beer.
Next thing you know, an Ackley improved thread will have chick pics.....
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If I see any Elevator will give it a try.
Tumbleweed is doing so well around here that the local grocery store is often out, and i have to go to the local Town Pump and pay another 50 cents a sixpack.
We bought some Chainbreaker White IPA in Bozone while selling books at the gun show a couple weeks ago. It's made in Bend, Oregon along with 17 zillion other microbrews and Nosler bullets. We liked it a lot and when I flew to Oregon right after the gun show to visit Leupold's factory they had Chainbreaker and some other Bend beers at a little dinner for several gun writers. After the Leupold tour we went to Bend and never saw any Chainbreaker, but then looking for a specific beer in Bend is like looking for a specific model of fast-twist .223 among Montana hunters: There are so many it's hard to pick just one. My go-to gas station (which is also a bait shop and a gun store) started carrying Bent Nail. I told them "Buy a lot, because it flies off the shelf." They insisted they'd bought plenty and they were out two days later. They've done a much better job since. I don't think most people realize how well those good IPA's sell. If you have not done so, try Lewis and Clark's Yellowstone Beer. It's great for when you have to sober up. Travis
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I'm headed to Bend for the week and was thinking of stopping off at Nosler. My twin brother went to school with John Nosler and was gonna see if he'd give me a tour. Worth checking out?
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Tom,
The Deschutes Brewery White IPA is real hoppy, like regular IPA's, but is made with wheat instead of barley, hence the lack of color and a slightly mellower flavor on the front end. But it's definitely hoppy, so ain't like Belgian White.
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I'm headed to Bend for the week and was thinking of stopping off at Nosler. My twin brother went to school with John Nosler and was gonna see if he'd give me a tour. Worth checking out? I have enjoyed touring the factory each time I have traveled through Bend.
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Higbean,
You never know, but John is pretty busy these days so I doubt he could conduct a tour himself. In fact we barely saw John in passing while there, since he was always zipping some place or another. The last time I toured the plant, 9 years ago, he was the guide. Since then Zack Waterman has become the PR guy, and he conducted the tour.
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What is "way more power"? Can you describe what that means and how it relates?
Reduced 7mm-08 ammo shooting a 140gr bullet at 2365fps will have 1738 ft. lbs. and a Taylor KO factor of 13,
120gr bullet @ 2675fps will have 1906 ft. lbs and a Taylor KO of 13.
A .223 shooting a 60gr bullet @ 3160fps will have 1330 ft. lbs. and a Taylor KO of 6.
I know many people regard these numbers as nothing more than numbers but many others regard them as a measure of the ability to cleanly kill an animal.
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Kind of interesting that in this same section of Ask the Gunwriters there's another posting regarding 4895 and 60% rule and there's just as many advocates behind using reduce loads.
I can see merits in both approaches.
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Taylor KO is funny. What's the Hornady one? H.A.R.P. Or something?
Let's get back to talking about beer. Sierra Nevada brews better beer than anyone and does it right here in my home town. There is nothing better and I'm headed to Bend to prove I'm right. Will advise...
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Those numbers don't mean much by themselves.
The Taylor KO figure was an attempt at quantifying how solids put the whack on things. It's basically momentum x diameter.
A 458 Winchester shooting round nose solids has a much bigger KO figure than say a 243 Winchester shooting 95 grain Ballistic Tips. Start putting them through deer lungs and which do you think will prove to be the faster killer over a number of trials?
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I know many people regard these numbers as nothing more than numbers but many others regard them as a measure of the ability to cleanly kill an animal. You know what tells you the most about cleaning killing animals? Cleanly killing animals. ![[Linked Image]](http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj220/deflave25_2008/DSCN1344.jpg) Dave
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Let's get back to talking about beer. Sierra Nevada brews better beer than anyone and does it right here in my home town. There is nothing better and I'm headed to Bend to prove I'm right. Will advise... That's not a bad brewery, but nowhere near the best. I like the Torpedos. (insert dick joke) (insert second dick joke due to using the word "insert") Travis
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Insert third dick joke, due to saying "insert second dick."
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Torpedo in the cans are good but it's pretty tough to beat their Ruthless Rye and Nooner.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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It's like perpetual motion
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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