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I'm thinking of getting a mold for my .45/70 and the 330gr Gould bullet looks like a good choice for deer. The design definitely has stood the test of time.
What's a good commercially available alloy that will expand and hopefully not lead at 1500-1600fps?
Thanks.
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I’ve made some near pure lead bullets - the 385 grain RN Lyman #457124- which would run fine to around 1500 fps with decent accuracy. Looked like a silver dollar exited the back side.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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I have an old Cramer HP mold that is similar but lighter weight. I cast a few out of a couple different alloys and shot them into catalogs.
The one I liked the best was actually close to Lyman #2. It didn't give the great big wide expanded silver dollar looking slug but acted somewhat like a Nosler Partition. The front half would open up in the first 4-6" of penetration and then shear off, leaving the base to continue on.
I was moving them along at about 1700 fps. I would think it would make a great bullet for deer and black bears.
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That 330gr Gould bullet is one of the great ones.
I used it for a number of years in a 45 Colt (Bisley Blackhawk). Air cooled wheel weights were soft enough to expand at 45 Colt velocity, if you use a pointed top punch to open the hollow point a bit while sizing. At 45/70 speeds that's probably unnecessary though, unless you cast from a harder alloy or heat treat them.
You might experiment with lube amounts on that bullet too; I found best results with only 2 of the 3 grooves lubed, but that will probably change with different lubes and bullet alloys.
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Thanks guys. Got a good start.
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