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The only place it seems where 7lb magnum benchrest guns don't exist.... is on the range....

Probably need to get out in the field to see them. Sheep hunting in two weeks....

Same here....though I think I am just letting my wife pack her rifle as she is first shooter anyways and I can use hers just fine. That way I can pack the spotter and tripod which weigh well more than the rifle to keep it fair.

Safe to say I've seen more than one Montana and climbed more than one mountain, however have yet to see a .5moa 300WM Montana (or any bigger than 6mm).



Big difference between "this one time at band camp" three rounds landed close together, and here's a half inch dot at 100 yards- here's one round.

The BR people are soon to catch on and wont be buying barrels from the current fad of the year makers. They will be offering big dollars here for rifles and taking the barrels off to put on their BR rifles.

May even be a couple bidding wars that will make for some interesting threads.

How about 200 yards?

7WSM, nine rounds playing with 162 Amax and RL26, 2.7 grains difference between round 1 and round 9, fired the same day I took the new 223 to the range, that sucks compared to the 7 and 308.

Edit for the blind: .575", 1.480", .874"

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i think I've answered on other threads but here goes. I'm in the midst of Kimber roulette.

I spent 4 years with my first Montana, a .308, before finally giving up. It just simply would not keep any load under 2 MOA. It's down the road.

After a short wait I bought another in .257 Roberts, then realized I still had some money, and bought a third in .280AI. I'm still working with those. Both hint at potential but neither has delivered yet. Both appear to be more accurate than that .308 but that's damnation by faint praise. At the moment I'm stymied with both because the bullets I want to test next are unavailable.

... and deer season is coming.

I bought my 308 specifically as a donor, it shoots okay, better than the 223 but not as good as the 7. The 223 I bought from SAS hoping it would shoot the 75 Amax but if not the BTHP, and it won't shoot anything consistently less than 1 MOA at 200 so I ordered a barrel yesterday.

The way I look at it, if a Montana won't shoot I have the lightest SS CRF action and a damn good stock for approximately the same price as a 70 or 700 SS action and a Mickey Edge...and no wait on the stock.

What barrels do you like for the Montana, and are you having them install the barrel or someone else?

I shot my Kimber 270 WSM Montana yesterday at 200 yds and it stayed sighted right on and put two 150 gr SST's into 1.5" over RL22 with WLRM primers.

I ordered both from Lilja, they estimated my 6.5 will arrive the end of next month, I plan to send the 308 to IT&D, most likely the 223 but don't expect the barrel until the end of October.

RDW,


Looks like the 3 rounds groups average .46 MOA and some change. Ok, here's a 1 inch dot at 200 yards will you keep all 9 rounds inside of it on demand?







Again BIG difference from 3 rounds landing close together from random chance, and ALL rounds landing close together. One is useful from a practical aspect and one is useful to BS on the Internet.


Here is an example. These are from a Tikka SL in 223. Trying to find a load for the finicky Sierra 77gr TMK's. I have over 100 rounds with that bullet and 2000MR powder in 10 round groups. Every one of those shots has been logged and measured. Currently it averages at around .48 MOA for 3 rounds for all of those 100 shots. Sounds great right? Well it averages a touch less than 1.5moa for 10 round groups. The reason is clear when you track where each round impacts at. Yes, 3 rounds are tight but the center of those three rounds shift on the target. The reason is due to chance. Guns don't fire through one hole, they fire in a cone.


This group for instance-


First three-




All 10 numbered-







Results-

This is exactly the way I look at it. The Montana is a bargain comparatively. My 8 twist .223AI is simply a bad ass package and my stock .243 will be an 8 twist Ackley as soon as I burn out the factory tube. Can't wait. If Kimber charged $300 more and put on a good tube in the right twist it'd turn this place on its ear.

Any way you can ditch the sniper mentality? We're talking hunting rifles here.

Agreed.

David

So am I. My first response was to people that I are claiming near bench rest gun accuracy from 7lb magnum Kimbers.

Reality isn't for everybody.

When you spend a lot of money and get fuc#ed this way of thinking also makes your butt feel better.

Still working. It HATES jumping 162's... Had every one of the "Kimber problems". The dummy cartridge showing a kiss looks...... Interesting...

That makes perfect sense to me here in Retardsville.