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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...a-medford-ma-narcotics-detective/399860/


Bet he goes ahead and shoots the next one.

Who the HELL seperated police officers and "civilians" into seperate categories?

More importantly WHY?
This us and them horseshit needs to go bye bye.
before it's too late.

It's even worse than the racism bullshit imo.
Killing off a troop or two of crazy fuggin jig a boos will be easy.
The others will be a real war.

People in this country better straighten the fugg up!

Police have been referring to non-police as civilians since the start.


As far as actions go that is nothing new either, you just get to see video of it now.

The only difference now versus years ago is the officer didn't immediately get rewarded during a ceremony due to the little prick filming him.


Do you honestly know of any instances where a perp could threaten an officer with death while carrying a firearm and not end up arrested? As you see, there is clearly a dividing line and always has been, just as it should be.

You can't have police consider themselves to be part of the public since that might have a chilling effect on completing their mission. They have to dehumanize civilians just as any other army would their opponent. "Civilian" is no different than calling other enemies a kraut, nip, jap, raghead, gook, or whatever else.

Merriam-Webster

civilian
noun ci·vil·ian \sə-ˈvil-yən also -ˈvi-yən\
: a person who is not a member of the military or of a police or firefighting force

I'm glad that's settled.

Do you believe you are changing any minds here, or is this just something your therapist told you to do, to elevate your inner anger? Talk about Jihad.

Actually, his therapist told him to have sex more often, and this is the only way he can get it up.

Are you ok? You sure don't seem to be. Why would I need to change your mind since you already support LEO's like Detective LeBert and his comrade and the methods they use to keep civilians in control.

Go take a nap and come back when you can express a coherent thought.

Same issue with you. Why the snide remarks at me? I only voiced support for the same things you do.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/civilian


British Dictionary definitions for civilian Expand
civilian
/sɪˈvɪljən/
noun
1.
a person whose primary occupation is civil or nonmilitary
(as modifier): civilian life


Word Origin and History for civilian Expand
n.
late 14c., "judge or authority on civil law," from Old French civilien "of the civil law," created from Latin civilis "relating to a citizen, relating to public life, befitting a citizen; popular, affable, courteous" (see civil). Sense of "non-military person" is attested by 1819 (earlier in this sense was civilian, attested from c.1600 as "non-soldier"). The adjective is from 1640s.



Of course American police and Firefighters do not consider themselves civilians in any capacity unless they end up as a defendant in a criminal trial and they need to build rapport with the civilians on the jury.

Waiting with abated breath...

I prefer rifle/hunting pics after the cowardly liar posts.

Thank you, sir!

It offsets the other......

You're welcome NH K9.

By the way,that's me getting more ammo for the SS .375 H&H and Blue (RIO7) shooting the T/C 7mm Rem mag.

Quemado 2015.

You mean you actually go out, shoot and meet other folks (members)? The hell, you say.....!

Beats sitting around and bitching, I'd guess.....

Yup.

Shot Blue's .450 Howell,.405 Winchester,.300 Wby (Custom made on a Rem 700 action,it's SWEET!!) .45/70 and finally his .38/55.

Ate,laughed,seen elk,antelope and just really enjoyed myself.

How did you ever survive that event without a few dikheds to ballance the fun and good fellowship with strife and idiotic reasoning?

Easy Seal,the dikheads don't show up.

Barkoff and RWE aren't cowards or liars, they are just out of sorts today.

Sherp, try brushing your teeth with a running chainsaw, it will improve your smile

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What is your problem? You support the officers in the video having to do what they did just like I do. Are you jealous I posted the thumbs up first? No reason you can't chime in with your support for them instead of ragging on me.

Officers need and demand constant praise for everything they do, not one of their supporters attacking another over some petty rivalry that exists in your mind only.

Having been a commissioned LEO for over 30 years, I can see where this "civilian" could have shot the detective and claimed he thought he was being car-jacked or attacked by a crazy man. To my knowledge in Louisiana there is no duty to retreat when someone jumps out of a vehicle and acts in a very threatening manner as did this officer. I would bet he acts like this this every day both on duty and off. His department would probably do well to get rid of him.

That little diatribe sounds like a good research project for an LE version of Stolen Valor.

REAL officers were on scene and actively supporting Detective LeBert in his fight against a civilian scofflaw so it was obviously righteous.

And this wasn't LeBert's first time of being thrust in to a dynamic and dangerous situation where he had to exert his authority to maintain order.



And once again other officers were assisting as he lead the way .


Not sure if he has had to smear other bodily fluids on any ne'er-do-well civilians or their property since then, but I have to imagine his career will end up being the focus of a Dick Kramer print suitable for framing some day if it is not cut short far too early by a cowardly civilian hiding behind a rock, tree, or Federal Grand Jury duty.

YMMV, but many years ago, here in Texas, when I was much younger and driving my old jet-boat 455 powered Cutlass, pretty much a race car, a LEO attempted to catch me after I passed him in his wife's car while blowing the carbon off the plugs on my way home from work.

The LEO had another man and his wife in the car with him when this occurred.

He did not even come close, as I thought we were having a contest of speed, which he lost for a mile or so until I slowed to make the turn off the highway into in the subdivision I lived in. He passed and then attempted to block my making the turn, which did not work and as I had no idea I was dealing w/ a LEO, I thought "road rage" and my best course was to adios - that is until he began shooting at my car, actually stepped from behind his wife's car and I saw he was wearing not only a plain white shirt, but had a badge dangling on his pocket in the rear view mirror.

I stopped immediately, tossed my door open, ducked the gunfire w/ my hands raised, out the door, as he proceeded to do a good imitation of this Detective here and wrote me a 155mph ticket on a post-it note pad.

Two days later, in court, in front of my dad and the local Justice of the Peace, the JP stripped this a-hole of his badge and his gun and he NEVER served as a peace officer again in the state of Texas.

While I am unsure of the laws where this incident occurred; in Texas according to the JP at that time it was unlawful to discharge a firearm for a traffic violation down here. The JP was PO'd and threaten to charge him save the fact that not only did he miss my entire car, he apparently missed the houses near by too and hit nothing (typical police accuracy).

Sorry but folks like him and the guy above need to find another line of work to which they are more suited, like UFC fighter or some other steroid induced occupation,IMHO.

The officer and his team are meting out justice in Massachusetts.

Your joke was a really good one! Had me going there till you got to the punchline about a Texas officer getting fired for shooting at a civilian!! LOL

That's a change from the pictures of game animals and livestock you have stump broke. I take it that is the image silk screened on a t-shirt you bought at a recent Log Cabin Republican convention?

Looks like they are getting bored with you herpes.

Too late,lost them.

So you are talking to your own crotch now since that is where they contracted herpes.

The fact that you are talking to your genitalia indicates syphilis as well. Isn't that great, the cattle have likely contracted it as well so that will trigger a mad cow disease scare and send beef prices even higher.

We are searching....

Still waiting....

Sherp,

My first encounter with someone who showed intent on taking my life was with my Stepfather. It was about 3 AM as that was about the time he'd generally get home from the bar. Really it all started at around the age of 2 years old when this Man first met my mother. By the age of 17 my Mother had left home and I could see things were right on the edge and so slept very lite and was always ready. When my step father made it up the stairs to my room he proceeded to grip my throat and tryed to choke me. At 17 years of age I overpowered him only because his intent had amplified. Normally I would never raise a hand because I felt it to be very disrespectful. It didn't sit well with my stepfather so he went downstairs and returned with a cocked and loaded 44 mag. I met him at the Door with a 45/70 pointed straight between his eyes and the coward backed down. When he went back down stairs I jumped out the window and that was my last night in that home.

Needless to say I developed from a very young age a rather realistic view that some folks will try to end ones life and I also developed an attitude of preparedness.

As far as police officers go I have a rather large number of them that I am very close friends with. I deeply respect the profession and there willingness in many instances to risk there life for others.

With that said I'm not stupid. Not all police officers are good though most are. I have always carried a pistol with me after my childhood and I never disclose to any person I do not know including law enforcement. I also would never use my firearm against another human being other than to protect my life or the life of another. Basically movie theater scum don't want to show up on a rampage if I'm in the theater. I shoot fast a fugg and straight as hell and there is no delayed reaction.

I almost had to use my firearm against a police officer one night at around 4 AM!

I'd gotten a call to do a job in the next county and apparently was going 7 mph over the speed limit down a hill. The police officers approached my window swearing and acting extremely aggressive. When he approached my window he immediately screamed in my face that I was in his town. I asked if I'd done something wrong and holy crap did he blow a gasket. The officer put his hand on his pistol and screamed exactly what the officer in the video did. (I'll blow your fugggin head off.

Little did he know my 357 was pointed straight up through the door right at the bottom of his chin with my left arm basically resting out the window concealing my weapon.

I patiently watched his hand on his pistol and the officer never lifted it at all. The slightest lift upward however he'd been one dead sumbitch. Instead I rightfully accepted my ticket and left. I told one of my best friends who is a police officer what happened.

His Words.....this line of work can push you over the edge and that can be dangerous as hell. He also said I'd be surprised at some of the schidt he'd seen.

I very much doubt I would ever encounter another officer situation where my life felt lagitamently threatened because I think it is extremely rare.



Shod

So he's a UC drug guy? Ha. I've supervised drug teams. Were this one of my guys, as he apparently has a thing for traffic enforcement, were he to pull this chit and I found out about it, he'd get his wish and be bumped to a parking enforcement or a traffic car in a heartbeat. Chickenshit stuff. Surprised he ever made it to working dope in the first place.