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Good deal Pat can't wait to here your thoughts on it after you log some time flinging arrows
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Well, I've only had the bow a day, but I can tell you already what Mathews got right with this one..."shootability". Everything about it is smooth. Easy to draw, easy to hold, easy to let down, stabile and quieter than any bow I've ever shot. I haven't chonographed it, and probably won't, as speed doesn't mean anything to me. I can tell you that it is faster than my solocam Drenalin by about 8" at 40 yards, because I used the same sight and sighted it in initially with the twenty yard pin.
As you can probably tell, I don't like anything radical with my bows, because that always equates to something "critical". It may just be me, but I'm glad to see Mathews getting out of the speed game and listening to what real hunters want.
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For Christmas, I gave my nephew a fitting from Cabela's for a bow. I think this is the way he wants to go, which means I'll get to try her out as well.
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FYI...270fps with a 465grn arrow at 28" draw @ 70lbs. I normally like to shoot 245-250, so I may go up a little in arrow weight.
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That's plenty fast enough for that weight set up. I think My Helium is shooting low 280's with a 400 gr arrow
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My Helium is quiet curious to see and hear how quiet the No Cam is ,bet it's just a soft whisper
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The reviews on this bow have generally been pretty stellar.
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What's their price range for mid-to-high quality? Thanks
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A new No Cam HTR will run a cool grand, undressed. I would never have bought a new bow (of any kind) if it weren't for the new design. It's like shooting one of the old 80's wheel bows, except half as short, twice as fast and quite. It is NOT for the guy that has to have the fastest bow at the range, so you probably won't see much target use.
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This bow has no hand shock, or torque, at release. Where you aim is where it goes. I have found one thing I am not happy with. When the bow finally "breaks" at the end of the draw cycle, it is difficult not to make a "clunk" when you hit the wall. This is with 85% let off. The bow takes modules for 65%/75%/85%, so I suspect the tendency would be less with the lower let offs.
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Any updates? I've been looking at all the videos on YouTube, and they are just about all positive. I love new technology, but it will take a lot for me to give up the Bowtech Experience for the No cam.
I guess the 2016s come out in January?
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Ditching a Bowtech Experience for a Mathews no cam is several steps in the wrong direction.
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the only "no cam" bow is a recurve - these are cams, just different looking...
have shot it. Would not give up my Z7 for one. I shoot it too well. I am also of the mindset that the technology is new and need to wait to see what they will be like next year... I'm sure they will be different, in a manner to sell more bows.
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Actually they are ROUND WHEELS. Axle straight thru the center. The AVS system...where the cable attaches is off center. Thus giving the bow it's power.
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Obsession bows. Whisper quiet. Extremely accurate. Lightening fast. You can haverify your cake and eat it too. you want smooth and quite , then buy yourself a Longbow
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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A Mathews I would own.
I saw a kid with one at the range this week. I personally don't have any issues with Mathews EXCEPT I won't purchase a bow that I can't test shoot first. Since Mathews are module specific, no of the pro shops around here carry the right module for my 26.5 inch DL. The guys at Archery Headquarters said they would order the module WHEN I purchased the bow. I email Mathews to find out what pro shop they recommend that could help me, they said Archery Headquarters.
I've run into the same issue with the Bear Agenda (Bears pro-line of bows). The Bear rep was at the shop, and when I asked if I could test shoot the bow, he asked me what about the bow do you want to know. When I email Bear, they said they were sorry they couldn't help me.
PSE (based out of Tucson) has a pro shop that will let me shoot any bow they make and every pro shop I've been in, including Archery HQ, will let me shoot a PSE.
Arizona Archery Club will setup and let me test shoot a no-cam.
Oh and the guys at Ross are pretty cool as well.
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I'll let you shoot any module adjust Obsession bow you want. I have mods for every offered DL. Louisiana is however quite a trip from where you're at. But the invitation nonetheless is open
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I'll let you shoot any module adjust Obsession bow you want. I have mods for every offered DL. Louisiana is however quite a trip from where you're at. But the invitation nonetheless is open Now THAT is what I call customer service ... Are you paying attention Archery Headquarters Chandler AZ? Thank you sir
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I'll let you shoot any module adjust Obsession bow you want. I have mods for every offered DL. Louisiana is however quite a trip from where you're at. But the invitation nonetheless is open Now THAT is what I call customer service ... Are you paying attention Archery Headquarters Chandler AZ? Thank you sir Stopped by Archery Headquarters at lunch today (they are down the street from my office). All new staff working there. Much better experience. So I am taking back what I said. Lanes were packed so I may have to suck it up and shoot outside in the 104+ heat.
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