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I don't [bleep] with picky rifles very long. If it ain't the bedding or the trigger, it goes down the road.

Spending a considerable sum for a rifle, then spending another one to find the one load it will like doesn't interest me.

Too many off the shelf rifles with a new handle on them will do everything I need.

JD from Legendary called today to update me. He said they are still working on my rifle to figure out the cause of the bad accuracy.

I will update you all when I am updated.

Brian

With two tries at this I do not understand why there isn't a brand new rifle with a signed test target with load data on your door step with a brief written apology.

If LAW hadn't made such a big deal on all the gun boards when they announced these series of rifles I wouldn't be as disappointed as I am. I foolishly thought this would be a controlled feed Cooper (with Cooper accuracy and quality at a smaller pricepoint) with a floorplate and a safety I wouldn't have to search for.

Bedding. Tell us about the bedding.

Legendary Arms uses a Hightech stock. The install a rear pillar and a front bedding block. They do not bed the action to the stock that I am aware of at this time. They put 50-55 inch lbs of torch on both the front and rear action screws. This was per a conversation with JD the production manager.

Brian

HS Precision suggests 65 inch pounds of torque with their stocks, IIRC. That's pretty tight, takes a good bit of force to get there. I guess it's to compensate for any irregularities in fit between their aluminum block and the action.

I like to skim bed those stocks and I think I can get by with 45 inch pounds or so, as the fit is assured.

I agree with Steelhead and others, if I pay for a high end rifle, I expect performance. Legendary Arms needs to step up to the plate and do what is right.

DF

With all the trouble this rifle has generated it seems like they would have had their best machinist fit and chamber a Krieger, Bartlein, Broughton, or whatever barrel, had their best bedding man put it in a new stock, and sent it back with some smoking test targets and a heartfelt letter of apology by now.

FWIW, I told my rep about this thread. Companies need to put more stock in forums. I don't think they fully realize how it impacts sales and influences opinions....and they'll never be able to quantify the true losses. This stuff is always at the top of the chain when guys do Google searches on "x" rifles.

Someday, somebody will figure it out...

Great point.

I hope your rep logs onto this site and does a Google search for his product. He may get educated.

LOTS of people Google something before they buy. Negative reports can be a poison pill to a vendor.

DF

Problem is a lot of these guys probably have more than a few gray hairs and still think that a couple of good write ups by Boddington and Simpson are all that's necessary.

They need to hire some younger consultants with a good grasp of modern marketing.

For Christ's sake their website won't even display on my apple devices!

Good point.

With social media and the internet so active these days, a vendor needs to keep up to stay competitive.

The rule 10 years ago is not the rule today. Not even 5 years ago. Marketing is a rapidly evolving beast.

Legendary Arms may not be "legendary" very long if they don't get it together.

Just saying...

DF

Yes it is

Wasn't there a mucky muck from Legendary on here awhile back that Stick tried to set straight on throating and twist rates?

Yes, Paul Reed Don't think he's working for them anymore.

It's called search engine optimization. Someone with good computer skills can get your product at the top or close to the top of a search list by using certain key words in your web page display that, say, Google likes. It's a lot more complicated than that, but that is the basic premise.

I'm sure Stick was dead on right.

Wonder what Paul thought after Stick got through working him over...

DF

No one saw this coming.

These clowns would be better off buying RARs, coating them, putting them in a good stock and selling them as "legendary". ha

You should have a brand new rifle in your hands already.



Travis