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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
I traded two T/C Contender carbines for it, even swap.

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Good call!!!

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They were pretty nice carbines, one had a Bullberry barrel.

But, I wouldn't trade back... smile

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Originally Posted by GunGeek
THIS guy was the master...

John Martz
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That's a Luger carbine in .38 Super! He had to split the gun down the mag well, toggle and all. Inset just a little metal, re-weld it all back together. Then he put a proper rust blue finish with all the appropriate Nitre blued accents.

John was from my hometown and as a kid I would always bother him at every gun show. First I'd salivate over everything on his table (one saw not one but three .45 ACP Lugers), then I'd bug him for hours about details of how he did it.



Checked prices on line. One like mine just sold for $1,500+. John Martz Lugers sell from $2,500 to $5,000+, depending on the work.

Seems Martz did more exotic stuff than Dewey, was more into finish and such. Martz guns are unique works of art, Dewey's are exceptional shooters. At least that's my take on it.

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Very nice Luger!



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I wondered how Mr. John Dewey got his logo applied so smoothly and perfectly back in the '60's, prior to computerized laser etching.

Then I got to thinking. This gun is Magnaported. I bet he got those guys to use their EDM process to cut that scrolled name and info on the barrel.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by GunGeek
THIS guy was the master...

John Martz
[Linked Image]

That's a Luger carbine in .38 Super! He had to split the gun down the mag well, toggle and all. Inset just a little metal, re-weld it all back together. Then he put a proper rust blue finish with all the appropriate Nitre blued accents.

John was from my hometown and as a kid I would always bother him at every gun show. First I'd salivate over everything on his table (one saw not one but three .45 ACP Lugers), then I'd bug him for hours about details of how he did it.



Checked prices on line. One like mine just sold for $1,500+. John Martz Lugers sell from $2,500 to $5,000+, depending on the work.

Seems Martz did more exotic stuff than Dewey, was more into finish and such. Martz guns are unique works of art, Dewey's are exceptional shooters. At least that's my take on it.

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Yeah that's a good summary; still a cool gun.

I grew up looking at Martz's guns and I was always just amazed at his mastery of his craft; dood was a freaking magician.

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Those genius types are often pretty eccentric. Bet he was like that.

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Wow, you're good. I'd say he was just slightly manic depressive. Super nice one day (like when he let me shoot the .45 Luger he built) and all the other random time when I asked him questions and he suddenly told me to piss off!

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I'd lean more toward OCD, although there are similarities.

It's very hard to assign a diagnosis without more info. Govt. people profile foreign leaders to help understand how they think and the best way to handle them. Lot of them are narcissistic, but so are some of ours... shocked

And, then there are neurotic vs. psychotic variants. If this guy was never "crazy" as being in a psych hospital, it's probably a neurotic rather than psychotic type. Psychotics lose touch with reality, Neurotics act weird, but they know who and where they are.

Cyclothymic is the non psychotic version of Bipolar D/O. A lot of alcoholics in this group, using booze to self medicate. They cycle between hypermania and depression. Some just stay high. They like that feeling and they'll get off their medicine to get the "high" feeling. Sort of a crack head who can pass a piss test... shocked

One can be pretty weird without a formal, psychotic DSM-IV code... grin

OCD's and Bipolars can be very intelligent. A hunting bud has a son who made a perfect 36 score on the ACT. He's pretty crazy. They finally got him adjusted on meds and now he's kicking butt, second year of law school, near the top of his class. And, because he has a disability, you and I are paying a full ticket...

Everyone is different.

My business partner says you need to put personality disorders where their pathology will work for them. We have a fairly well controlled OCD who does a wonderful job with collection.... wink

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Hmmm ... pretty insightful psychology.

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Robert,

every so often, i get that reminder that you enjoy handguns.

a very nice rig, and the P 08 has always been a fascination, due to the very ingenious mechanisms within. when custom work is added into the mix, it becomes doubly interesting.

i recall Dewey and his bullet spinner, the straight-line bullet seater , etc., from the early to mid '70's.

back in the late 1970's, i would often frequent this fellow's gunshop, who lived about 10 miles from my home--he and i would visit for hours in his shop, while our wives would visit in the house. since you like the Mausers, engravings, etc., i'll post a link to his webpage, for your familiarity/review of his work:

http://customgunmaker.com/customgun_005.htm

i learned a thing or two from him during that time...


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however, contrary to popular thought, one begins with the the narrow end.
the more you progress, the more it expands into greater discovery--and the less of an audience you will have...
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Checked the link.

Wow! That guy is talented. He can do about anything.

I have a friend here in my hometown who does great wood and metal work. Steve does all that and engraves.

This guy's name is James Flynn. He restored the Askins Superposed. Well the wood, we didn't do anything with the metal.

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=124719&start=280

http://www.terrywieland.com/James-Flynn-bio.htm

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DF,

Mr. Flynn is very talented, and with him practicing the trade for 37 years, he and Steve are likely about the same age, and have possibly met at some point in time.

you are fortunate to have someone of his skill nearby, as one can easily pick up useful tips on an informal basis--which is really great medicine.

my old mentor Bill B. really hated the 9 MM, and he always referred to it as the "9 MM Lugger".

really do enjoy reading your very well written posts--always interesting...



all learning is like a funnel:
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the more you progress, the more it expands into greater discovery--and the less of an audience you will have...
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Thanks, Jerry.

Coming from you, that means a lot.

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Dirtfarmer, it was a pleasure both talking and working with you. The Dewey luger is in it's new home. I cant wait to introduce it to it's long lost brother and sister below. The work on the gun is fantastic and the trigger is great!

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Found your post doing a search. Had missed it earlier.

Glad the Dewey found some good friends... laugh

Those are nice.

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