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If it isn't I have my real cannon 300 Savage 700 Classic ready too. 150's just under 2700, big time!

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Originally Posted by RWE
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Obviously the pics by experienced hunters prove a .222 will kill a deer. Why someone would choose it, when they have other options, is beyond me.


well, there was a time when I didn't have other options.

I do now, but considering I'm killing them like a slaughterhouse, I decided not to bother other optioning.





OK I lied.

I'm going to use a RAR in 223 this year.

And let my daughter use the deuce.


I hope ya'll knock 'em dead, literally. I seldom get a standing broadside perfect shot though.

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Originally Posted by JGRaider
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Obviously the pics by experienced hunters prove a .222 will kill a deer. Why someone would choose it, when they have other options, is beyond me.


well, there was a time when I didn't have other options.

I do now, but considering I'm killing them like a slaughterhouse, I decided not to bother other optioning.





OK I lied.

I'm going to use a RAR in 223 this year.

And let my daughter use the deuce.


I hope ya'll knock 'em dead, literally. I seldom get a standing broadside perfect shot though.


Yep.

In the real world, you don't always get perfect bullet placement.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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The luxury is the stand is 30 yards behind the house, and it overlooks a corn field, which will be cut in another month.

The gun season lasts 2 months.

So.....

every week day, I will pick her up at 4pm from school; we will haul ass home and be in the stand by 4:30.

Then sit for an hour.

The shot will present itself.

If it ever becomes harder than this, I will rethink the strategy.

That said, I used the 222 on weekends when I went deep in the brush or woods and rarely got a good broadside shot. Get your heresy chimes ready, because I'm going to say "head and neck shots".

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Choose the wrong bullet and you will have a fine mess on your hands.

I'd look to either the 60gr NPT or the 64gr BSB.


Most .222s have a 1 in 14 twist. I have a Sako Vixen that's been rechambered to .223 and it shoots lights out with a 55 gr. bullet. I don't think it's likely to stabilize a 60 or 64 gr. bullet, but you may just have to try it. Miracles do happen!

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Well, I consider the .222 a fine deer cartridge. My brother and I have killed more deer with a Hornet though and never lost one. If I am "horn" hunting, I use a .280 or 7x57. Meat hunting or culling I now use a Fireball or .222.

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Originally Posted by RWE
The luxury is the stand is 30 yards behind the house, and it overlooks a corn field, which will be cut in another month.

The gun season lasts 2 months.

So.....

every week day, I will pick her up at 4pm from school; we will haul ass home and be in the stand by 4:30.

Then sit for an hour.

The shot will present itself.

If it ever becomes harder than this, I will rethink the strategy.

That said, I used the 222 on weekends when I went deep in the brush or woods and rarely got a good broadside shot. Get your heresy chimes ready, because I'm going to say "head and neck shots".


I like neck shots. Generally they are either a DRT or a clean miss.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
I just worked up a load with 45 gr TSX's for my .222. Haven't shot anything with them yet, but am seriously contemplating it for my deer tag this year.


We've used this bullet a fair bit and it works real well on whitetail.


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So you've got this buck at 225 yards.........do you really wanna have a .222 in your hands?







.....or this one?







....or maybe this pig? Not me.....ever.




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Originally Posted by mathman
Savage 99 convinced me to use enough gun, so I have my 250 Savage 700 Classic ready to go.


I see you have decided to go straight to a "Stopping Rifle", when you know perfectly well, that whitetail deer rarely charge, even when wounded.


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
So you've got this buck at 225 yards.........do you really wanna have a .222 in your hands?







.....or this one?







....or maybe this pig? Not me.....ever.




I've shot the bottom out of Coke bottles at 210 yards, I'm betting I could find a way to make a connection with one of those at 225.

I'd want something spun other than 1-14", but I'd not be skeered.


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No benches out there. If the wind's blowing 15mph+ you're screwed x2.


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Not a writer. When I was a rookie trooper in a lightly populated area, my one and only gun store guy told me that the duce was the most popular cartridge for his poacher customers. He was correct, and they seldom bought beef. Smallish deer, head and neck shots, and relatively quiet all worked for them. Using the same thinking, if one has the discipline to use it, it will work in legal circles as well.

I have taken many ferrel goats with head shots from a .218 Bee and a total of one cull deer with a between the eyes shot with a .22LR. All DRT.

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The second deer I ever killed (1967) was with a .222 shooting Norma factory ammo...50 grain bullet...nowadays I have "stepped up" to .223 with 65 grain SGK's over 27 grains of Varget.


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
No benches out there. If the wind's blowing 15mph+ you're screwed x2.


I don't shoot off [bleep] benches.

Yeah, putting a bullet into a target the size of a basketball at 225 yards with 15mph winds is a real motherpuker.


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You'd obviously not know, since you've never killed anything remotely that big, unless you shot yourself in the mouth somehow.


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Originally Posted by boatanchor
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Obviously the pics by experienced hunters prove a .222 will kill a deer. Why someone would choose it, when they have other options, is beyond me.


+1

Have been hunting deer all my life and have never considered using my .222, perhaps out east where the distances are shorter it might be more viable. out west where the distance can be long at times I know there are always better options. I will keep my .222 for hunting coyotes,rockchucks and shooting prairie dogs.


Not sure what you consider "shorter" but I have killed them out to 400 yards in the east. Last one I killed with a .22 CF (223) was right on 275 yards.


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Maybe you could hit this one though....he was just standing there.....too old and fat to leave maybe.

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I'm with JGR on this. The 15 or 30 mph winds in west Texas, changed me to an 06 pushing 180s at respectable speed. That is much more than needed to kill deer, but absolutely needed to hit them with careful hold off.

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