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Look for Sister to poke some Venison via 77/22 K-Hornet,223AI and 25-284.

Prolly Saturday morning,unless she sees a Bear first...................

You aren't gonna last very long around here......

It was cogent though.

What part of the aerospace industry did you work in? I thought turbines and such were always investment cast... ? I think when most people think of a cast part, the 40 some year old cast junk metal toy cars from Japan come to mind, not an investment cast Callaway driver or the turbine in a commercial jet liner.

BTW, if investment cast receivers are junk, Weatherby charged some huge premiums for their "junk" Mark Vs.

There is something I don�t understand and that is why you got so BENT about this. You made an assertion that was wrong and got called on it. At the same time you were right about the .280 and 7mm Rem Mag loads AS PROVIDED BY WINCHESTER.

I wasn�t going to question the relative performance of the two cartridges - but since you seem to insist on discussing it I�ll provide a few more data points. People can draw their own conclusions.

Here are a few maximum velocity loads for the .280 and 7mm Rem Mag for 139/140g/145g bullets:

Lyman 48th
2989fps, 2757fpe = .280 Rem 139g
3275fps, 3334fpe = 7mm Mag 140g
286fps, 577fpe = Difference

Speer #12
2976fps, 2851fpe = .280 Rwm 145g
3153fps, 3200fpe = 7mm Rem Mag 145g
177fps, 349fpe = Difference

Hornady 5th
3000fps, 2778fpe = .280 Rem 139g
3200fps, 3180fpe = 7mm Rem Mag 139g
200fps, 402fpe = Difference

Barnes #3
3002fps, 2801fpe = .280 Rem 140g
3210fps, 3203fpe = 7mm Rem Mag 140g
208fps, 402fpe = Difference

Nosler 5th
3152fps, 3088fpe = .280 Rem 140g
3248fps, 3279fpe = 7mm Rem Mag 140g
96fps, 191fpe = Difference

Hodgdon Annual Manual 2006
2927fps, 2663fpe = .280 Rem 140g
3107fps, 3001fpe = 7mm Rem Mag 140g
180fps, 338fpe = Difference

Your statement is an absolute and in my experience absolutes are almost never correct. In this case the anisotropic structure of forgings causes them to be strongest in the direction of the grain and less strong in the perpendicular direction. Castings, on the other hand, have an isotropic structure and are equally strong in all directions.

These characteristics make castings a preferred choice over forged when the stresses to be applied are multi-axial, as is the case in a rifle receiver.



I had to float the barrel and adjust the trigger on my Remington .308, and that my buddy�s Remington .30-06 needs the same work done (its trigger is atrocious). I do this to all my rifles, however (unless they come floated from the factory), so I don�t consider it a big deal.

I tweak triggers and pour bedding,before even thinking about shooting a new rifle.

My Titanium an exception(no bedding),as a curiousity experiment of sorts.

Same reason I load for everything,whether it's an over the counter specimen or a High Speed Zinger....................