Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire New human ancestor found: Homo naledi

Hard to know what to believe.

I'll be willing to bet Ingwe hunted with this guy waaay back in the day.

John

It's an interesting topic. And it does look like those folks buried their dead. For spiritual reasons? Or just to discourage predators & scavengers from feeding on them?

I've yet to see people address genetic variability in ancient humans. When I was in college I had an anthropology course and spent a semester looking at replicas of old skulls. And I had an engineering classmate who had a neanderthal skull. He was a good student, too. If future scientists ever find his skull, they will be very confused

When I was a child and TV was a new thing the last living "specimen" of an ethnic group was on the news. When she died it was something like the last caucasian dieing. She was 100% homosapien. What was found was a group of another ethnic group, nothing more.

someone asked age, they arent sure, hard tto tell with the sediment but two possibilities one is 2.5ish million years old and the other is closer to half a million. more tests need to be done.

these various branches of the fanily tree arent a straight line one leading to another like some seem to think its more like a bush with often a number of species often living together going down their own paths. modern man has shared the planet with atleast 4 other species at one time most well known being Neandertal. but there were atleast three others at various times aswell while modern man has walked the earth such as Homo erectus, denisovans and the hobbits of Flores.....

and as has been pointed out, this was not an few isolated fossils it is a whole lot of material from individuals ranging from juvis to elderly. there is ALOT of material.....but does seem to show, as other species have hinted, walking upright came before most other human features. the foot bones of these guys other than having slightly longer toes is a remarkably modern human type of foot complete with high arch making them well suited for covering long distances walking upright.....but from the waist up its remarkably primitive in its traits....

much more to a neandertals skull than heavy brow ridges

Definitely a Seahawks fan...

This is the direct descendant, photographed in the Seahawks locker room.

Yeah settled science....like Global Warming LOL!

Sure looks like Moochelle

Since our physical bodies as we have 'em today put ourselves squarely in the same Family with the apes, doesn't matter what you call 'em.

Doesn't matter what color they were, doesn't matter how hairy they were or weren't.

What matters is the bones, especially from the waist down in this case.

And also, give thee people some credit, I don't believe there is any way they could fake an opposable thumb.

This is a frickin' huge find

Birdwatcher

Fifteen bodies down a hole?

First thing I thought was that the roots of the Mob go way further back than we knew.

I think the only reason they'd want to discourage predators is for religious reasons. Otherwise, they could just drag the bodies off a distance and accomplish the same thing, that is, protect the abode.

I'm surprised they haven't carbon dated the bones. They should still be bone and not replaced with rock.

Finding human-like bones in a cave and links to prehistoric man is what keeps grant money flowing to scientists and their quest to prove a point. Their notion of early man is so strong, they spend their time looking for ways to qualify a theory rather than take data and draw conclusions from it.

Had these scientists discovered the human bones in a cave near Tsalvo, Africa, they would have come to the same burial conclusions and yet those early cave dwelling humanoids were female lions...

a lot of that i totally agree with. the Annunake (who?) who came here to mine gold used the early pre-humans as an important breeding stock source....from which the roots of the modern and post-modern human races were evolved and developed.

but mainstream science (and religion) is just not quite yet ready to bite the bullet on that one.

For those with a busy schedule this Friday, this quote sums up all the links in the OP.




Travis

There is a reason they are still looking for "The missing link"...

I fired a Tsalvo once....

WOW ancient bones with some characteristics of a Monkey found in Africa. THis is life changing to say the least. Proves Liberals were descended from Monkeys.

From the article stand point, which is using the ceremonial burial angle to strengthen (even proof) it's find as being an early ancestral behavior, I just don't buy it.
Look at the map of the cave. It has one crevice that's no more than 10 inches high and the other is less than 8.

When someone has to do the "superman" crawl just to get through the larger 10" section, How are they gonna drag, push, pull or how ever a dead body into the back chamber?

Regardless of what kind of bones they end up claiming they are, I think critters of some kind are ultimately responsible for their location. That is IF the whole thing doesn't turn out to be a hoax in the end.

They did say in the article, there are no teeth marks on the bones, which would apparently rule out being a lion's den.

And there are apparently several dozen people involved in accessing & examining the bones, which would make it that much harder to run a hoax. Not impossible, but seems much less likely.

It's possible, too, that a group of the Naledis got caught in the cave by a flood or some other accident, or maybe they were driven there by predators. So it wasn't a burial.