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I know what you mean. The B78 .30-06 I had would put 5 in 3/4", and I could count on it to put 10 into an inch, at 100 yds.- with cast bullets. Knock a 1/4" off that with Sierras. If I described the groups I got with the .22-250 you would call me a damn liar.

Tex-n-Cal and ghoahhh: at one time I also owned a B-78,but a .45-70, that printed about 1 1/4" at 100 yards for 5 with a barrel sights, jacketed and IMR 30331. Would still have it was not for the atrocious trigger and the fact that Some Fool offered me twice what it was worth. He used it for his short range elk rifle and installed 2 or 3X fixed power 'scope on it.

Those old B-78's would shoot, just that the trigger was so bad and you could not take it down for cleaning.

Also own a few Browning-Miroku 1885's and they also will shoot. Lee Shaver can re-work those triggers for about US$35.00. http://stores.leeshavergunsmithing.com/

I took one apart to clean it- one time. I vowed never again. It took me three evenings of fiddling and cussing to get it back together.

It's easier if you cut the nasty little mainsprings shorter they will still light primers just fine.

I think at one time Shaver sold instructions and a fixture to aid with assembly, but I did not see it on his site.

Now you tell me...

I have had No.1's and No3's but, never kept them for long and sold the last No.3 I had last April.
I bought my B-78 .45-70 in November 1976 and have put more meat in the freezer with it than any other rifle I've owned. The vast majority were put there using cast or paper patched bullets. The accuracy is just fine and, with the exception of the very first buck, one shot has been sufficient for everything from coyote to elk.

I'm seriously thinking about an Encore with a .280 remington barrel

Based on the Encore MLs I've handled, I always thought they were heavy and clumsy, but an LGS has a 24" .25/06 that handles nicely. The stock comb is much too high for the open sights, but they'd get the axe anyway. Nice wood and less than $600.

I've got a Ruger RSI in '06 that shoots wonderfully with the two loads I've tried thus far. I also lucked out with the wood lottery so I'm happy all around.

Lately I've been thinking a stainless contender carbine would be a perfect kid's rifle with a 6x45 barrel. They're supposedly very light and handy. A .300 Savage barrel would be useful as well.

How are the triggers on the Encores? Are they adjustable?

Only one I had was a 12" .44 mag. Trigger was okay, not great. I think they have an overtravel stop, but not adjustable. Lots of places that sell barrels and such work on them though.

Mike Bellm is the go-to guy on all things related to the T/C products. He has an extensive website that addresses most questions and options. See his site about trigger adjustments. Yes, an Encore trigger can be adjusted.

Sir,

A No. 1 is an excellent choice and, to my eye, is quite elegant. However, the factory triggers generally suck...

My deer rifle is a Jack Haugh No. 1 in .243. A few years ago I got tired of messing with the lousy trigger and replaced it with a Kepplinger. It instantly made me smarter and a better shot with that gun. I am in the process of building a .222 varminter on a No. 1 and have the Kepplinger for it coming. I'm not even going to try to use the factory trigger.

There are other replacement triggers (from what I read) but I have no experience with them.

If I'm reading between the lines correctly you are an experienced shooter and will want a good trigger.

I want to thank all of you for the responses and help offered to my questions about single shot rifles. I am glad to announce to all that I consummated a deal on my first 1885 Browning Highwall. It is in 270 win.... a caliber I over looked for years, going to either my 30-06 or 25-06, neither of which I now own (those rifles having been handed down to my grand kids). I am looking forward to discovering any quirks to this new to me rifle and new to me caliber.
I hope to tap into you all again as I tread along on my new adventure as needed. As Mr Wright pointed out, "as an experienced shooter" I may come looking for advise as to crisp-en the trigger up very soon. I am going to put some range time on the rifle before I get too ramped up...I might can get used to the long smooth pull, but prefer a much crisper trigger. Here are the pics.

Thanks again!

Scott

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I'm late to the show, but congratulate you on an excellent choice in both gun & caliber. I have a Browning Low Wall in 260 and a Winchester Low Wall in 6.5x55, both rifles are great. I have long been a fan of the 270, have a pre '64 Win mdl 70 and Mannlicher Schoenauer in that caliber.

May want to look into a CPA....Singleshot rifles .com

they are a modern copy of a Stevens 44 1/2..

Great Rifles with lots of options!

Terry

Congrats Scott on your 1st 1885. I believe you'll really like the 270 in that platform. Keep us posted on your progress.