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Actually, guys, the video was a fake, put together by an anti abortion group. Carly lied about seeing the video she described because no such video exists. Abortion is legal in this country, get over it. Planned Parenthood, in a very small number of clinics, carries out the woman's wishes to donate tissue for research. They collect administrative fees ranging from $30 to $100 for processing said tissue. PP has been investigated in about six states, all of which have found no evidence of wrongdoing. These are the facts of the case. The take home message is that abortion is legal, Carly's a damn liar, and even my own Congressman Chaffetz got sucked in. Pretty funny if you watched the hearing, he made a complete fool of himself. Any questions?


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What reason do you have for defending the murder of babies?


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Actually SansSouci/Laguna/Raisuli/Paddler, the video has been proven to be authentic.


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Im sure he knows, thats just the way they are.Keep telling the lie till it becomes the truth.
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Actually SansSouci/Laguna/Raisuli/Paddler, the video has been proven to be authentic.


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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
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Telling me to "look inward" after the "GFY" only shows how disingenuous you really are


Oh maybe it does. It wasn't that long ago that I thought exactly like you do about it.

If you thought "exactly as I do" you wouldn't have changed your mind.

You'd realize it's not your choice to make.


Hold it now, The kid getting yanked out of the womb and getting it's skull caved in and tissue harvested didn't have a 'choice', you phuggin maroon.

You should look inward to quell your hostility at not being able to control the world.

The mother gets the choice, not you, not anyone else


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Originally Posted by CCCC
Snyper - you were asked clear, simple questions about your positions and bases. You did not answer even one. Instead, you rant and try to insult. I make no assumptions about the rest of your existence or your ethical makeup otherwise, but on this issue the evidence says that you are sick - and useless to those applying intellect and conscience in this matter

You're applying your superiority complex and nothing more.
You have no right to make moral decisions for anyone else

You insult and pontificate, then whine when you feel insulted

I really don't care if you like that reality or not.


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Originally Posted by Snyper
The mother gets the choice, not you, not anyone else


So at what age should we start making it immoral to kill their own children?

Can the mother kill them because she chooses to, until say... start first grade?

At some point, taking responsibility needs to kick in.


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The profit, or not, is a total red herring.

Abortion is killing another human, and we all know it. The question becomes if it is ever justified.

Why can't we simply stay focused on the real issue at hand?

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Originally Posted by Snyper
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Snyper - you were asked clear, simple questions about your positions and bases. You did not answer even one. Instead, you rant and try to insult. I make no assumptions about the rest of your existence or your ethical makeup otherwise, but on this issue the evidence says that you are sick - and useless to those applying intellect and conscience in this matter

You're applying your superiority complex and nothing more.
You have no right to make moral decisions for anyone else
You insult and pontificate, then whine when you feel insulted
I really don't care if you like that reality or not.
Hear this - you don't get to define reality for me or anyone else - and you most likely wouldn't recognize reality if it flew up into your elevated nose. Obviously you don't know the difference between a "superiority complex" (check yours, fella) and a conscientious individual asking very direct questions. Those little questions appear to be too embarrassing, or too difficult, for you to answer.

You can't twist this one - even with your "complex". I pushed no moral decisions at you and don't do that with others - but do ask questions on serious moral topics. You were asked to state your moral positions on the very serious topic above. You refuse to do so. Does that indicate that you are immoral, or amoral?


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Originally Posted by jdm953
You put a two year old out in this world by itself with no help and it will not live long either.It must not be a child then,the way you define it.

I don't define anything. The laws have already done that.


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Originally Posted by mikeone
Too bad Snypers mom didn't want an abortion !!

Too bad you couldn't think of an original response !!


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Originally Posted by Snyper
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You put a two year old out in this world by itself with no help and it will not live long either.It must not be a child then,the way you define it.

I don't define anything. The laws have already done that.


Even the laws that state when you kill a pregnant woman, you are guilty of not one, but two murders?


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Originally Posted by CCCC
Snyper - you were asked clear, simple questions about your positions and bases. You did not answer even one. Instead, you rant and try to insult. I make no assumptions about the rest of your existence or your ethical makeup otherwise, but on this issue the evidence says that you are sick - and useless to those applying intellect and conscience in this matter

I made no assumptions about you either, and you continue to labor under the impression I somehow care what you think about me.

You just like pretending you're somehow superior, and want to be in control, and anyone who disagrees must be sick or stupid.

Save your feigned indignation and accept the fact it's not your job to make choices for anyone other than yourself

If I'm "sick and useless", then don't reply to me.
I don't care one way or the other.


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You understand it was the same kind of law that marched Jews into the gas chambers,they were not human either.Come to thing of it nobody took up for them,well people like you didnt.
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Too bad Snypers mom didn't want an abortion !!

Too bad you couldn't think of an original response !!


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
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You put a two year old out in this world by itself with no help and it will not live long either.It must not be a child then,the way you define it.

I don't define anything. The laws have already done that.


Even the laws that state when you kill a pregnant woman, you are guilty of not one, but two murders?

You don't get to choose to terminate her pregnancy, but she can.

The laws on assault don't negate abortion laws.

Not all laws make perfect sense, and no one has to agree with them all.

Either way, you don't get to force your views on anyone else.


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Originally Posted by Snyper
Either way, you don't get to force your views on anyone else.


Isn't that what laws, and any form of regulation is... forcing compliance on other people?

The gays and radical racial groups sure have carte blanche with forcing theirs on us.

The issue at hand is more about what we as a society find acceptable, and condone as a society.

You gotta draw the line somewhere.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
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Either way, you don't get to force your views on anyone else.


Isn't that what laws, and any form of regulation is... forcing compliance on other people?

The gays and radical racial groups sure have carte blanche with forcing theirs on us.

The issue at hand is more about what we as a society find acceptable, and condone as a society.

You gotta draw the line somewhere.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Snyper
The mother gets the choice, not you, not anyone else


So at what age should we start making it immoral to kill their own children?

Can the mother kill them because she chooses to, until say... start first grade?

At some point, taking responsibility needs to kick in.

You can look up the current laws instead of asking stupid irrational questions.

Also, laws have nothing to do with "morality", and your only resposibility is to worry about what you do, not what others do


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Originally Posted by jdm953
You understand it was the same kind of law that marched Jews into the gas chambers,they were not human either.Come to thing of it nobody took up for them,well people like you didnt.
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Too bad Snypers mom didn't want an abortion !!

Too bad you couldn't think of an original response !!

No, that was illegal, as in "war crimes"
And Nazi comparisons aren't very original either.



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