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his mother being a nurse, I wouldn't be surprised if she was working at the only hospital in Roseburg, Mercy Medical Center....
ya gotta feel for the woman...moved to a smaller town to escape California....
now she loses her son.... along with him pulling this as a stunt beforehand...
I'll bet dollars to donuts, that her son planned on committing suicide, and decided to go out with his name in lights by pulling this killing spree.. so he could be a hero to other recluse losers from the web sites he participated in...his actions are being applauded by some of these clowns...my son has shown me as he is familiar with some of these sites...
the big thing for the folks of Roseburg and those of us living in rural southern Oregon, is acceptance of something like this happened here....we are use to reading headlines...not being headlines...
I feel no pity for her son, but I do feel for his mother right now... Seafire, I hope your son is still getting through all this as best he can, you and your neighbors also. I fully understand your statement that I highlighted. A few years back my wife had an opportunity for a position in Roseburg, turned out she had just accepted another job. I was stunned when I heard of the recent events there as it is one of the last places in Oregon I would have thought for something like this to occur. My wish is that the southern OR communities have a speedy and peaceful recovery from this tragedy. You folks don't deserve it, but the again, who does. Geno
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/exclusive-mom-ore-shooter-stockpiled-guns-article-1.2384460 The mother of the Oregon mass murderer stockpiled firearms because she feared stricter gun laws — and shopped around for a shooting range that would let her and her son fire away without supervision, the Daily News has learned. Laurel Harper, a nurse who shared an apartment with her son Chris Harper Mercer, spoke openly about her love of guns, said the mother of one of her patients. "She said she had multiple guns and believed wholeheartedly in the Second Amendment and wanted to get all the guns she could before someone outlawed them," Shelly Steele, who hired Harper to provide care for her sickly teenage son, told The News in an exclusive interview Saturday. "My husband is an avid hunter and former military, so she would talk to him about it all the time, how she liked to take her son shooting," Steele said. Harper told Steele she tried a shooting range close to the Umpqua Community College campus but didn’t like it “because it wasn’t very private.” “You needed to have a range master with you, and she didn't like anyone watching,” said Steele, who lives in Winston, Oregon. “She wanted more privacy.” So Harper found a better match in a gun club in Myrtle Creek, Steele said. "He liked to do it with her," she said, referring to Chris. "She told my husband she just purchased some new guns a few weeks ago and took him shooting. I thought the whole situation was very strange. If you know your son has mental health issues, do you encourage a fascination with guns?" - See more at: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...s-article-1.2384460#sthash.35aKuiET.dpuf Is that the Sandy Hook mom? Mom's by themselves aren't equipped to handle boys/men.
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A$$hole shooter didn't do the one thing that could have provided even a small benefit to the situation.
He didn't off his family first.
If that happened often enough, the enablers just might try an intervention.
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It's a great life if you don't weaken..
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-home-bloody-rampage-left-nine-dead.html Outside his home in Tarzana, California, Thursday night, Mercer's British father, Ian Mercer, faced a barrage of questions from reporters, which he declined to answer.
A dejected Mr Mercer issued a brief statement, saying: 'It's been a devastating day, devastating for me and my family.'
He refused to talk about the tragedy and his son’s role in it, only adding: 'Shocked, shocked is all I can say,' before retreating back into the house.
... investigators found seven weapons at Mercer's home overnight, as well as six at the school - more than previously thought and all owned legally. He also wore a flak jacket. This included a 9mm Glock pistol and a .40-caliber Smith & Wesson, which were both traced back to the shooter. He also had a .40-caliber Taurus pistol listed as being owned by someone in Portland and a .556-caliber Del-Ton, as well as five more ammo magazines, according to an official firearms report. Police found a shotgun, four rifles and two pistols at Mercer's apartment. Mercer was carrying a flak jacket containing steel plates, as well as five additional magazines of ammunition when he was confronted at the school, Douglas County Sheriff's Office said. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ampage-left-nine-dead.html#ixzz3nbuK2sEn Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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Medical examiner listed official cause of death as suicide
The mother is a registered nurse, I doubt there is In issues with her
Kid was fuggin whack job plain and simple
Acted like every one of these shooters who gets confronted by someone else with a gun...they off themselves Suicide is not a cause of death...its a manner. A medical cause is lack of oxygen to the brain.
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Wow! CNN altered picture of the shooter on right. Real picture on left. ![[Linked Image]](https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/oregon-shooter-9-color-black.jpg)
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Thanks again joken2,
My searches had turned those up, but no real mention of Mom in them.
I still haven't seen any news as to where she is. Hopefully safe.
Geno
PS, my condolences to Mr Mercer.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Condolences and prayers also for both parents - sounds like a "bad seed"
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The thing about having a dead shooter is that there is no trial.
They don't have to "prove" anything. The story can be whatever they want it to be.
Funny how the FBI & BATF were Johnny on the spot, where they had no jurisdiction. Murder is a state crime. BATF would be called to trace all the weapons and search for explosives. The online postings made that portion the FBI's jusrisdiction. Not everything is a Govt conspiracy
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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the mother is culpable, the kid graduated from a special needs school and she knew he had a borderline personality, under the "reasonable person" judgement the last thing you want in a mental case person's hands is a gun.
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They guy was 26 years old, no one is responsibility for his actions except he himself.
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She knew the kid was touched. I'm having trouble not seeing culpability.
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the mother is culpable, the kid graduated from a special needs school and she knew he had a borderline personality, under the "reasonable person" judgement the last thing you want in a mental case person's hands is a gun. A "reasonable person" wouldn't make those assumptions without knowing precisely what his "special need" happened to be. If you want to start banning guns for anyone who has ever once acted like a "mental case" or has a "borderline personality", that would cover very many here. He had never been involuntarily committed, nor convicted of any crimes. Why try to blame anyone other than the shooter himself, when we know he simply freaked out?
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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She knew the kid was touched. I'm having trouble not seeing culpability. No legal culpability unless she was a co-conspirator or an aider and abettor. He was an adult.
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Blaming the mother?
If the boy was your son, what would you have done to have prevented this?
Lots of answers perhaps, but no one can truly say, nor do wee know what steps she had taken.
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The thing about having a dead shooter is that there is no trial.
They don't have to "prove" anything. The story can be whatever they want it to be.
Funny how the FBI & BATF were Johnny on the spot, where they had no jurisdiction. Murder is a state crime. BATF would be called to trace all the weapons and search for explosives. The online postings made that portion the FBI's jusrisdiction. Not everything is a Govt conspiracy You sound more and more like an Obama liberal everyday. http://www.oregon.gov/osp/CID/pages/index.aspxBATF & the FBI didn't have to show up. The Oregon State Police have investigative units that are more than up to the task. Bomb sweeping too. http://www.oregon.gov/osp/AES/Pages/index.aspxMore dependency on Uncle Bammy to save us all....
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They guy was 26 years old, no one is responsibility for his actions except he himself.
So you have a brother that is a 26 year old emotional retard that keeps talking about killing himself. Your first move is to gift him a gun for his birthday. Adam Lanza's mother knew Adam was a full on emotional retard and did the same thing, of course she did not live to regret it. The mother is culpable, and we will see a civil suit against her at the very least.
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She knew the kid was touched. I'm having trouble not seeing culpability. No legal culpability unless she was a co-conspirator or an aider and abettor. He was an adult. She knew, yet she fed into it. Legal or not, she was wrong.
Broncos are officially the worst team in the nation this year.
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She knew the kid was touched. I'm having trouble not seeing culpability. No legal culpability unless she was a co-conspirator or an aider and abettor. He was an adult. She knew, yet she fed into it. Legal or not, she was wrong. Arguably.
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