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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
It's pretty hard to develop such a test Jimmy. Most people can figure out right away what is being looked for and how to answer in order to fit the desired profile and eschew the undesirable traits.

Psychopaths/Sociopaths are usually continually amazed that it is so easy to put people on. If you ever get the chance, watch the movie American Psycho.


I love that movie. And the book. And the song.




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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Sure seems like cops are killing a lot more people than say 10-20 years ago. What up with that?
I read a statistic recently that cops in the US kill more Americans in a few months than have all the cops in Great Britain killed Brits in the last one hundred years. Can't vouch for its accuracy, though.


Pretty sure the United States has been a more violent place ever since there was a United States. And that's how I like it.




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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by wildbill59
Sure seems like cops are killing a lot more people than say 10-20 years ago. What up with that?
I read a statistic recently that cops in the US kill more Americans in a few months than have all the cops in Great Britain killed Brits in the last one hundred years. Can't vouch for its accuracy, though.


Pretty sure the United States has been a more violent place ever since there was a United States. And that's how I like it.




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In the frontiers, for sure, but even that was overstated for the sake of sensationalism. When everyone is carrying guns, and don't worry too much about being arrested for legitimate self-defense, bad guys tend to exercise a great deal of self-restraint.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

When everyone is carrying guns, and don't worry too much about being arrested for legitimate self-defense, bad guys tend to exercise a great deal of self-restraint.
And that's how I like it.

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"It's not uncommon for us to have these kind of livestock versus vehicle accidents," he said. "Typically they don't turn out this way."


...one would certainly HOPE not.

Prayers for all involved, impacted, and affected by this very troubling event.

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I don't know where you find these greg, had me in tears. I see my family in there, and my wife's. I had to call her in. One of those guys on a horse in there is the spitting image of her dead son.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
In the frontiers, for sure, but even that was overstated for the sake of sensationalism. When everyone is carrying guns, and don't worry too much about being arrested for legitimate self-defense, bad guys tend to exercise a great deal of self-restraint.


I'm pretty GD sure the frontiers never held a candle to the slums of Philly, New York and Boston.



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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by wildbill59
Sure seems like cops are killing a lot more people than say 10-20 years ago. What up with that?
I read a statistic recently that cops in the US kill more Americans in a few months than have all the cops in Great Britain killed Brits in the last one hundred years. Can't vouch for its accuracy, though.


Pretty sure the United States has been a more violent place ever since there was a United States. And that's how I like it.




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In the frontiers, for sure, but even that was overstated for the sake of sensationalism. When everyone is carrying guns, and don't worry too much about being arrested for legitimate self-defense, bad guys tend to exercise a great deal of self-restraint.
The popularity of dime novels in the late 1800's greatly exaggerated the bloodshed in the west. A lot of our 'history' was manufactured by writers looking to sell a book or a story. For example - you might be familiar with Nez Perce Chief Joseph's famous surrender speech when he said "From where the sun now stands, I will fight no more forever". Fake. That was written by an army major for an article he wrote for Harpers magazine.


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

When everyone is carrying guns, and don't worry too much about being arrested for legitimate self-defense, bad guys tend to exercise a great deal of self-restraint.
And that's how I like it.
Same here.

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Originally Posted by wildbill59
Sure seems like cops are killing a lot more people than say 10-20 years ago. What up with that?


I doubt it, but can only find data through 2011.

1976 415
1977 311
1978 313
1979 442
1980 457
1981 381
1982 376
1983 406
1984 332
1985 321
1986 298
1987 296
1988 339
1989 362
1990 379
1991 359
1992 414
1993 453
1994 459
1995 382
1996 355
1997 361
1998 367
1999 308
2000 309
2001 378
2002 341
2003 373
2004 367
2005 347
2006 386
2007 398
2008 378
2009 414
2010 397
2011 393


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Pat, those numbers must be wrong.

Given the outrage by many here, the deaths by the hands of the jack booted surely is larger.


Surely.

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by wildbill59
Sure seems like cops are killing a lot more people than say 10-20 years ago. What up with that?


I doubt it, but can only find data through 2011.

1976 415
1977 311
1978 313
1979 442
1980 457
1981 381
1982 376
1983 406
1984 332
1985 321
1986 298
1987 296
1988 339
1989 362
1990 379
1991 359
1992 414
1993 453
1994 459
1995 382
1996 355
1997 361
1998 367
1999 308
2000 309
2001 378
2002 341
2003 373
2004 367
2005 347
2006 386
2007 398
2008 378
2009 414
2010 397
2011 393


You can take your facts and GFY, buddy.



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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Does anyone have the records from the prohibition days? Bonnie & Clyde, Baby Face Nelson, & Al Capone days?


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So, we still don't know what went down--just how it started and how it ended. Until someone fills in the blanks, it's just speculation for your own entertainment.


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Originally Posted by mudhen
So, we still don't know what went down--just how it started and how it ended. Until someone fills in the blanks, it's just speculation for your own entertainment.


That's every cop thread on the Campfire.




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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
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Everybody sure flies off the handle without even knowing what really happened. Sheesh!


You've got that right.

But I think it's very likely that the root cause of the shooting was EGO
on the part of one or more of the Combatants.

Maybe all three.


Curdog to the rescue!!!

Laughin'....



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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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If I wanted to move a bull. I would have dogs horses and bird shot.


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Here's some interesting statistics. Traditionally, about 2/3 of all LEO's killed feloniously were in the South. In 2014, for the first time ever, the blue states are killing cops at a far greater pace. I guess Black Lives Matter is working.

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In 2013, 27 law enforcement officers died from injuries incurred in the line of duty during felonious incidents.
Of the officers feloniously killed, 16 were employed by city police departments, including 4 who were members of law enforcement agencies in cities with 250,000 or more inhabitants.
Line-of-duty deaths occurred in 16 states.
By region, 15 officers were feloniously killed in the South, 6 officers in the West, 4 officers in the Midwest, and 2 officers in the Northeast. (UCR)


(2014)
Preliminary statistics released today by the FBI show that 51 law enforcement officers were feloniously killed in the line of duty in 2014. This is an increase of almost 89 percent when compared to the 27 officers killed in 2013. (Note: From 1980–2014, an average of 64 law enforcement officers have been feloniously killed per year. The 2013 total, 27, was the lowest during this 35-year period.) By region, 17 officers died as a result of criminal acts that occurred in the South, 14 officers in the West, eight officers in the Midwest, eight in the Northeast, and four in Puerto Rico. (UCR)


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Originally Posted by RWE
Pat, those numbers must be wrong.

Given the outrage by many here, the deaths by the hands of the jack booted surely is larger.


Surely.

Shirley.

How many of them really needed killing?



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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
In the frontiers, for sure, but even that was overstated for the sake of sensationalism. When everyone is carrying guns, and don't worry too much about being arrested for legitimate self-defense, bad guys tend to exercise a great deal of self-restraint.


I'm pretty GD sure the frontiers never held a candle to the slums of Philly, New York and Boston.



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You have a point, but that would clear out pretty fast, I bet, if folks in those places could carry and weren't worried about the cops if they had to shoot someone in self defense. What we have is a system whereby the bad guys are made to feel safe from all but the police, and since the police cannot be everywhere, or even close to it, crime tends to run rampant in such places. The crooks rule the streets.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The popularity of dime novels in the late 1800's greatly exaggerated the bloodshed in the west. A lot of our 'history' was manufactured by writers looking to sell a book or a story. For example - you might be familiar with Nez Perce Chief Joseph's famous surrender speech when he said "From where the sun now stands, I will fight no more forever". Fake. That was written by an army major for an article he wrote for Harpers magazine.
Agreed.

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